Wednesday, July 20, 2011

jonathan m., god-zombie

My responses below are in bold type.

I clicked on his user name on evolutionnews.org and it took me here: http://www.intelligentdesign.org/whatisid.php

There, I found this:

Definition of Intelligent Design

What is intelligent design?
Intelligent design refers to a scientific research program as well as a community of scientists, philosophers and other scholars who seek evidence of design in nature. The theory of intelligent design holds that certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection. Through the study and analysis of a system's components, a design theorist is able to determine whether various natural structures are the product of chance, natural law, intelligent design, or some combination thereof. Such research is conducted by observing the types of information produced when intelligent agents act. Scientists then seek to find objects which have those same types of informational properties which we commonly know come from intelligence. Intelligent design has applied these scientific methods to detect design in irreducibly complex biological structures, the complex and specified information content in DNA, the life-sustaining physical architecture of the universe, and the geologically rapid origin of biological diversity in the fossil record during the Cambrian explosion approximately 530 million years ago.

Which IDiots exactly are actually doing "study and analysis of a system's components" to "determine whether various natural structures are the product of chance, natural law, intelligent design, or some combination thereof", and especially novel research that doesn't rely in any way on what real scientists have researched? And if ID is a "scientific research program", why are "philosophers and other scholars" involved?

"....a design theorist is able to determine...."

A "design theorist" is a religious wacko who can't determine jack shit.

"Such research is conducted by observing the types of information produced when intelligent agents act."

That's a laugh! You IDiots won't even agree on a definition for "information". And what "research"? Attacking Darwin, science, scientists, science supporters, and atheists isn't "research", and neither is spewing religious nonsense.

What "intelligent agents"? Remember, you're talking about "various natural structures". Assuming intelligent agents (which of course, to you IDiots, is the alleged christian god and/or his elves) isn't "scientific".


"Scientists then seek to find objects which have those same types of informational properties...."

Hey, wait a minute. I though you religious kooks claim that your chosen god created and designed EVERYTHING! Why would only some "objects" or "natural structures" have "informational properties" that are or were designed, or have "informational properties" that allegedly support your crazy religious agenda called "ID theory"?

"Intelligent design has applied these scientific methods to detect design....."

What "scientific methods"? You don't have or use any "scientific methods". You can't even calculate the alleged "CSI" in a banana. You IDiots haven't "applied" ANY "scientific methods".

"...the life-sustaining physical architecture of the universe..."

What? There's life throughout the universe? Doesn't that go against the bible and other religious beliefs and claims?

"....the Cambrian explosion...."

The so-called "explosion" took many millions of years.

Also on that site:


"Creationism typically starts with a religious text and tries to see how the findings of science can be reconciled to it."

Which is EXACTLY what many of you IDiots do, or you dismiss and denigrate science entirely!

One more thing from that site:

"Is intelligent design a scientific theory?"

Only in your dreams.