Monday, May 30, 2011

The voice of ID

bornagain77 on uncommon descent obviously thinks of himself as the voice of ID and the christian god, and of course so do most or all of the IDiots there. borntosuckgodscock77 may be even more pompous and self-righteous than gordy (kairosfocus), although that's a tough call.

In his incredibly arrogant, insulting, sanctimonious remarks below to Elizabeth Liddle (who is VERY civil), bloviatingagain77 clearly shows what a self-inflated IDiot is all about, and what a rancid christian asshole he is:

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bornagain77

05/30/2011

6:15 am

Elizabeth you state;

‘But good honest people can differ on their priors’

No Elizabeth, proper priors, or presuppositions, can only be formed by Theism. Thus malformed ‘priors’, or presuppositions, formed by anti-theism eventually, and always, lead to erroneous conclusions in the end;

i.e.

THE GOD OF THE MATHEMATICIANS – DAVID P. GOLDMAN – August 2010
Excerpt: we cannot construct an ontology that makes God dispensable. Secularists can dismiss this as a mere exercise within predefined rules of the game of mathematical logic, but that is sour grapes, for it was the secular side that hoped to substitute logic for God in the first place. Gödel’s critique of the continuum hypothesis has the same implication as his incompleteness theorems: Mathematics never will create the sort of closed system that sorts reality into neat boxes.
http://www.faqs.org/periodical.....27241.html

This following site is a easy to use, and understand, interactive website that takes the user through what is termed ‘Presuppositional apologetics’. The website clearly shows that our use of the laws of logic, mathematics, science and morality cannot be accounted for unless we believe in a God who guarantees our perceptions and reasoning are trustworthy in the first place.

Proof That God Exists – easy to use interactive website
http://www.proofthatgodexists.org/index.php

Nuclear Strength Apologetics – Presuppositional Apologetics – video
http://www.answersingenesis.or.....pologetics

John Lennox – Science Is Impossible Without God – Quotes – video remix
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/6287271/

Materialism simply dissolves into absurdity when pushed to extremes and certainly offers no guarantee to us for believing our perceptions and reasoning within science are trustworthy in the first place:

Dr. Bruce Gordon – The Absurdity Of The Multiverse & Materialism in General – video
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/5318486/

Can atheists trust their own minds? – William Lane Craig – video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byN38dyZb-k

“But then with me the horrid doubt always arises whether the convictions of man’s mind, which has been developed from the mind of the lower animals, are of any value or at all trustworthy. Would any one trust in the convictions of a monkey’s mind, if there are any convictions in such a mind?” – Charles Darwin – Letter To William Graham – July 3, 1881

“Atheists may do science, but they cannot justify what they do. When they assume the world is rational, approachable, and understandable, they plagiarize Judeo-Christian presuppositions about the nature of reality and the moral need to seek the truth.
As an exercise, try generating a philosophy of science from hydrogen coming out of the big bang. It cannot be done. It’s impossible even in principle, because philosophy and science presuppose concepts that are not composed of particles and forces. They refer to ideas that must be true, universal, necessary and certain.” Creation-Evolution Headlines
http://creationsafaris.com/cre.....#20110227a

as well, as I recently pointed out to you, it is a malformed ‘prior’ anti-theology, that was the basis of Darwin’s book:

Charles Darwin, Theologian: Major New Article on Darwin’s Use of Theology in the Origin of Species – May 2011
http://www.evolutionnews.org/2.....46391.html

,, Thus Elizabeth your assertion that ‘good honest people can differ on their priors’ completely misses the fact that malformed priors must be addressed and ‘rooted out’ so that the weeds that spring from erroneous presuppositions ‘priors’ never spring forth again!


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Am I the only one who would like to kick that IDiot's ass?