Friday, January 20, 2012

joe g, the muslim young Earth creationist

"John Paul" is joe g:

John Paul
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Message 60 of 128 (109748)
05-21-2004 7:21 PM Reply to: Message 58 by JonF
05-21-2004 6:27 PM

Re: Summary
Unfortunately for you Humphreys' "cosmology", while perhaps seeming reasonable to the uneducated and prejudiced audience he's aiming at, is incompatible with the observations and General Relativity.

John Paul:
Again with the assertions. Care toi give any specifics?

IOW, Humphreys is a psuedoscientific crank who knows not whereof he speaks.

John Paul:
And who are you? I would love to see you debate Dr. Humphreys about his cosmology.

From here:

And how about this one:

John Paul

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Message 72 of 128 (110667)
05-26-2004 12:07 PM Reply to: Message 65 by Cold Foreign Object
05-21-2004 8:59 PM

Re: Summary
We creos MUST relent to an old earth/universe. The scientific evidence is irrefuteable.

John Paul:
That's a joke, right?

What is this irrefutable evidence of an old earth? Or is it just unfalsifiable conclusions based on one worldview?

From here:

"Dr. Humphreys" is Dr. Russel Humphreys, a STRONG believer in a 6,000 year old Earth. As can be seen above (and in other posts of his in that thread), joe (John Paul) staunchly supports the "cosmology" of Russel Humphreys. Want to see the cosmology of Russel Humphreys? Just Google his name.

Here's a bit of info about Humphreys:

Dr. Russell Humphreys, Ph.D.

Creationist physicist

Dr Humphreys was awarded his Ph.D. in physics from Louisiana State University in 1972, by which time he was a fully convinced creationist.


* Creation Science Fellowship of New Mexico, President
* Industrial Research Magazine’s IR-100 award
* Award for Excellence for contributions to light ion-fusion target theory
* Adjunct professor of the Institute for Creation Research in San Diego
* board member of the Creation Research Society


Dr Humphreys has published some 20 papers in secular scientific journals, as well as many creationist technical papers. He is also the author of Starlight and Time, in which he proposes a model that the universe may only be thousands of years old even though light from distant stars appears to have taken billions of years to reach Earth. He is also author of “Evidences for a Young World.”

From here:

Russell Humphreys
Born David Russell Humphreys
February 2, 1942 (1942-02-02) (age 69)
Wyandotte, Michigan, USA[1]
Occupation Independent Researcher for Creation Ministries International
Known for Advocate of Young Earth Creationism
Religion Baptist

From here:

Creationist work full-time
Dr Humphreys retired from Sandia in 2001 to work full-time for the Institute for Creation Research (ICR) where he was appointed an Associate Professor of Physics. In this time, he operated mainly from his home office in Albuquerque, NM, USA, while still continuing to write for Journal of Creation (formerly TJ) and assisting several other creationist organisations with questions and information concerning physics, astronomy and cosmology.

In August 2008 he resigned from ICR to work for Creation Ministries International (USA) while continuing to be mostly located in New Mexico, continuing his research, plus writing and speaking ministry.

Dr Humphreys has been a longtime member of the Creation Research Society and is on its Board of Directors.

From here:


I recommend reading the whole thread at EvC (Creation versus Evolution), especially if you want to see joe make a fool of himself, as usual.

And here's a page that lists the threads that joe (John Paul) was involved in:

And just to further show how fucked up joe is, here are some comments by him:

John Paul:
You obviously have no clue what ID is. Ignorance is one thing. Wilfull ignorance is a shame. ID does NOT go against common descent. But you would know that if you had a clue.

And this:

John Paul:
Funny from where I sit it is you who flings the shit. One more time for the reading impaired- ID does not say anything about common descent- for or against it. IOW using any common descent arguments against ID just shows ignorance.

From here:

So, according to joe, ID "does not say anything about common descent- for or against it" but it "does not go against common descent". And of course joe has said at many other places that ID is okay with common descent and that ID isn't okay with common descent and that ID doesn't say anything about common descent and, well, he can't make up his feeble mind. It's abundantly clear to me, based on all of the crap that joe has spewed over the years, that he is totally against common descent. Like a typical creobot liar, he just can't keep track of his lying contradictions, and he figures that no one will notice or be able to find what he has said on various websites.

The bullshit he said on the EvC website is classic joe g (John Paul) tard and well worth a read. In his posts there he makes it ABUNDANTLY clear that he's a young Earth creationist, and a delusional blowhard.