Tuesday, October 11, 2011

What is wrong with you, Elizabeth?

Eugene S
October 8, 2011 at 7:40 am


Please do not say anything like that in relation to Adam and Eve. I strongly object. Would you like to be called that yourself? Away with LUCA/FUCA, Adam and Eve are my real ancestors. Please don’t.

Elizabeth Liddle
October 8, 2011 at 8:20 am

Sorry Eugene, but I don’t understand your objection. Could you rephrase your request? I don’t know what it is you are objecting to.

My point is an extremely simple mathematical one.
Eugene S
October 8, 2011 at 8:43 am


This is simply not nice, to me. Adam and Eve were real people, like your or my parents, not scientific or religious concepts. Would that be okay for you to be addressed as mitochondrial Liz? I don’t think so.
Elizabeth Liddle
October 8, 2011 at 9:11 am

Apologies, then, Eugene. I have often read (indeed I’ve read it here), that Mitochondrial Eve (as identified by geneticists) was Eve, wife of Adam, and that Y-chromosome Adam (ditto) must have been Noah. Indeed, someone here, I think it may have been ba77, was actually arguing that the fact that geneticists think that Y-chromosome Adam lived later than Mitochondrial Eve, is supportive evidence for the Flood bottleneck.

So, apologies for any inadvertent offence I caused you.

I should say that my own view is that Adam and Eve are mythical, not real people, and that the woman geneticists call “mitochondrial Eve” was one of many similar women, probably living in Africa.

From here:



Elizabeth, WHY on Earth would you apologize for using the term mitochondrial eve? Why do you cave in to the ridiculous whining of any of the IDiots? adam and eve never existed, and eugene's delusions don't deserve any respect whatsoever!

And why do you keep arguing with the moronic IDiots on UD? Nothing you say about science will ever sink in to their empty heads. All you're doing is making yourself one of their targets. A target that they can throw their bullshit at. You haven't changed any of their minds, and never will. They are malignant narcissists and they believe that they already know EVERYTHING. Since you study mental illnesses and other aspects of the human brain, I don't see how you can be so blind as to not notice that the IDiots on UD see you as a completely dishonest, willfully lying, evil, uneducated, ignorant, brainless barbarian who needs to be straightened out and brought back into the god fearing fold. Why do you subject yourself to their arrogant insanity?

Do you realize that without you being there, UD would be even more dead than it already is? The IDiots love the fact that you keep posting there. To them, you're a wildebeast with a limp and they are hungry lions. They can't wait for you to show up so that they can run you down and devour you. In their maniacal minds, they rip you apart every time they respond to you. Your presence and comments are simply something to attack, ridicule, and destroy.

If you think that reason, logic, rationality, evidence, reality, and truth are going to work on IDiots, and convince them that they are or even just could be wrong about anything, you're more delusional than they are. Surely you must have better things to do.

All the IDiots deserve is exposure of their insanity, and mockery.