September 12, 2011 at 8:20 pm
I’ll take a stab at it.
Supernatural: that which exists outside of and apart from the universe, that is, time and space.
A supernatural act is a necessary condition for the design of a living thing by an intelligent agent because:
1) Living things must exist within the universe.
2) The universe requires a supernatural act.
3) Therefore the design of a living thing requires a supernatural act.
The universe requires a supernatural act because:
1) That which begins to exist must have a cause.
2) The universe began to exist.
3) Since time and space came into existence with the universe, it requires a cause that is outside of, and apart from time and space. By definition, the creation of the universe is a supernatural act.
September 12, 2011 at 8:27 pm
No prize. The contest does not challenge contestants to demonstrate that the universe requires a supernatural act. It challenges contestants to demonstrate that within the universe we already have “the design of a living thing by an intelligent agent necessarily requires a supernatural act (i.e., the suspension of the laws of nature).”
barry, you no class piece of shit, if the universe was created by a supernatural entity (a god), like YOU religious zombies believe, then everything in it, like "a living thing", exists BECAUSE of a supernatural cause.
The more I look at your "contest" and your wording in it, the more I realize that the whole thing is just a bunch of IDiotic ass-backward crap. YOU IDiots are the ones who believe in the supernatural. YOU are the ones that should be proving YOUR claims. Your so-called "contest" actually challenges your own claims of a supernatural designer (god)! You're attacking you own claims! You're so fucking stupid that you worded your contest in a way that challenges your own beliefs and your so-called 'ID theory/inference'!
But, since you are the one currently (and dishonestly) saying that something supernatural has nothing to do with ID, in that case, any god can be ruled out, and all the claims, by you IDiots, of a god being the intelligent designer are therefor off topic, irrelevant, and inapplicable to ID.
And since you're stating that a supernatural god/designer has nothing to do with the so-called 'ID theory/inference', which includes IDiotic speculation about all living things, I'll expect you and the other UD mods to delete any and all references to a god, religious beliefs, or anything else regarding anything supernatural from UD, and to never allow any future references to a god, religious beliefs, or anything else regarding anything supernatural to be posted on UD. You better get busy deleting all of the religious, supernatural crap from UD.
Or, you can just admit that you and the other IDiots believe that a supernatural god created the universe and everything in it, including living things, which of course is actually what you believe and promote.