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Grunty
September 12, 2011 at 4:15 pm
“UD hereby offers a $1,000 prize to anyone who is able to demonstrate that the design of a living thing by an intelligent agent necessarily requires a supernatural act (i.e., the suspension of the laws of nature).”
The money’s safe. Designing a living thing is precisely what Craig Venter is doing, and he has already succeeded with his laboratory-designed microbe.
But if you mean, the design of a living thing by an intelligent agent – meaning a living thing considered by science to have evolved or arisen by abiogenesis, my answer is as follows:
If ID is correct and life could not have arisen without intelligence, then the first living thing must have been designed by an intelligence that was not living (otherwise it would not be the first living thing). The intelligence that was not living must either have been of natural origin or of non-natural origin (there being no other possibility). The only intelligence that has ever been observed in nature has either been alive or the product of life – but that cannot be true for the intelligence that designed the first living thing (by definition). Therefore the intelligence that designed the first living thing cannot have been natural and must therefore have been non-natural – and must therefore be supernatural by definition.
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Barry Arrington
September 12, 2011 at 8:39 pm
No prize. The prize will be awarded to “anyone who is able to demonstrate that the design of a living thing by an intelligent agent necessarily requires a supernatural act (i.e., the suspension of the laws of nature).” It says “a living thing,” not the “first living thing.”
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Hey barry, you fuckfaced no-integrity dishonest asswipe, the "first living thing" was "a living thing".
Grunty
September 12, 2011 at 4:15 pm
“UD hereby offers a $1,000 prize to anyone who is able to demonstrate that the design of a living thing by an intelligent agent necessarily requires a supernatural act (i.e., the suspension of the laws of nature).”
The money’s safe. Designing a living thing is precisely what Craig Venter is doing, and he has already succeeded with his laboratory-designed microbe.
But if you mean, the design of a living thing by an intelligent agent – meaning a living thing considered by science to have evolved or arisen by abiogenesis, my answer is as follows:
If ID is correct and life could not have arisen without intelligence, then the first living thing must have been designed by an intelligence that was not living (otherwise it would not be the first living thing). The intelligence that was not living must either have been of natural origin or of non-natural origin (there being no other possibility). The only intelligence that has ever been observed in nature has either been alive or the product of life – but that cannot be true for the intelligence that designed the first living thing (by definition). Therefore the intelligence that designed the first living thing cannot have been natural and must therefore have been non-natural – and must therefore be supernatural by definition.
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Barry Arrington
September 12, 2011 at 8:39 pm
No prize. The prize will be awarded to “anyone who is able to demonstrate that the design of a living thing by an intelligent agent necessarily requires a supernatural act (i.e., the suspension of the laws of nature).” It says “a living thing,” not the “first living thing.”
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Hey barry, you fuckfaced no-integrity dishonest asswipe, the "first living thing" was "a living thing".
